RT @flowermusickids: @RohanChindooroy @dgurdasani1 The claim natural infection leads to 1- durable host immunity against SARS2, & 2- reliab…
RT @flowermusickids: @RohanChindooroy @dgurdasani1 The claim natural infection leads to 1- durable host immunity against SARS2, & 2- reliab…
RT @flowermusickids: @RohanChindooroy @dgurdasani1 The claim natural infection leads to 1- durable host immunity against SARS2, & 2- reliab…
RT @flowermusickids: @RohanChindooroy @dgurdasani1 The claim natural infection leads to 1- durable host immunity against SARS2, & 2- reliab…
@RohanChindooroy @dgurdasani1 The claim natural infection leads to 1- durable host immunity against SARS2, & 2- reliably protects from severe illness &/or sequelae following reinfection has been proven false. Anyone who asserts otherwise is makin
@RohanChindooroy @Kegel7 CDC a political football of Trump. Manaus in Brazil clearly showed early in pandemic infection gave zero immunity. 1st wave had 75% attack rate yet death toll greater in 2nd wave. Hopium gets you an early painful grave. https://
@v_venkov @MityoValchev @SuchMartaMuchAh Ето как се познава, написали са го, но ти си функционално неграмотен: "we analyzed a cohort of repeat blood donors to identify anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibody boosting as a means to infer reinfection." Ето къде е и сами л
@v_venkov @MityoValchev @SuchMartaMuchAh В момент на пик позитивните тестове са 20% плюс, което прави статистиката на МЗ нерентабилна относно брой заразени. Да, трудно им е да съберат данни по средата на Амазонка, мисля, че е доста учудващо това. Иначе - з
touché par le virus https://t.co/hJwNsHVGAh 2/ L’antibiorésistance. En gros au plus une bactérie ou un virus est confronté à une version d’un humain vacciné et un non vacciné au plus elle aura la possibilité de muter pour niquer les deux. Par exemple,
Manaus, Brazil was hit hard. 3/4 of the city infected. What happened next? Was the next wave of SARS2 less severe? Did it have a harder time transmitting given the “recently acquired herd immunity”? NO! https://t.co/Qo8NNHhJpV
RT @flowermusickids: @DellAnnaLuca Study (conclusion—no herd immunity against SARS2 is possible): https://t.co/Qo8NNHhJpV Those that chas…
@DellAnnaLuca Study (conclusion—no herd immunity against SARS2 is possible): https://t.co/Qo8NNHhJpV Those that chase “herd immunity” are chasing after unicorns.
RT @a_chtung: Я не хочу повторяться, как оценивают этот порог (https://t.co/WAJcAErUKL), но суть в том, что в этом городе, если верить стат…
Я не хочу повторяться, как оценивают этот порог (https://t.co/WAJcAErUKL), но суть в том, что в этом городе, если верить статье в уважаемом журнале Science (https://t.co/CERDddk8lb), переболело около 3/4 населения: https://t.co/RlO8LPijpA
@KennethLammers @geoffgom @koepee We weten al van begin 2021 dat groepsimmuniteit door infectie een sprookje is: https://t.co/PvrwM4d5Qq
@Alfari86974052 @rveline4 @cpm066975 Et pour Gamma à Manaus ça remonte à 2020 : https://t.co/f6UwvH7Jn0
@marcotrizzino @timtriche @fitterhappierAJ @kallmemeg I don't know that anyone ever wrote a paper about the issues with the Manaus study. Here is the first thread I wrote about it's limitations. Note this was written before their big subsequent wave whi
11/F Sayers' ideologically-motivated non-expert analysis was dangerously ridiculous for a number of reasons. For instance, Manaus has a younger population than Great Britain, which Sayers didn't account for. 🤦♂️ https://t.co/hjjWH1BXYI https://t.co/rn
@acerteidenovo @AndreHenning https://t.co/5BreWkyvNu mesmo que as pessoas ganhem imunidade se infectando, o vírus segue existindo e podendo causar reinfecções. a vacinação ajudaria a extinguir o vírus e reduzir a 0 as chances de reinfecção
RT @johnjljacobs: Deze rekensom is alleen correct als alle immuniteit blijvend beschermt tegen infectie. Dat is onwaarschijnlijk bij coron…
RT @flowermusickids: @statesdj @lisa_iannattone Good lord. 1-Natural infection causes cortical atrophy in mild cases. That’s an unethical p…
@statesdj @lisa_iannattone Good lord. 1-Natural infection causes cortical atrophy in mild cases. That’s an unethical public health policy. 2-Natural infection does not protect the infected from future infection nor the severe effects of which: https://t.co
@EmilyAllynMoore @lisa_iannattone - There is no such thing as immunity, herd or otherwise, from natural infection. https://t.co/Qo8NNHhJpV What happened to the people of Manaus, Brazil proved that.
@bichokrulla Eso no es cierto. Manaus nunca tuvo 70% de seroprevalencia despues de la primera ola. https://t.co/0ZBeV8ZL1L
@TonyBurnetti @selise @KatherineJWu @fitterhappierAJ - Previous infection neither protects against reinfection at a later date nor severe illness/death upon reinfection. https://t.co/Qo8NNHhJpV As a licensed APRN, I’d be committing rank malpractice if I f
RT @flowermusickids: Natural infection does NOT convey protection from future SARS2 infection nor the severe consequences of which: https:/…
RT @flowermusickids: Natural infection does NOT convey protection from future SARS2 infection nor the severe consequences of which: https:/…
Natural infection does NOT convey protection from future SARS2 infection nor the severe consequences of which: https://t.co/XNZEi7JCVU 🔑 Key point people: there is NO herd immunity from previous SARS2 infection. Claiming otherwise is pseudoscience, false,
@elect_moore @dgurdasani1 - You owe Dr Gurdasani an apology. Prior infection to SARS2 does **not** provide protection against future reinfection **or the severe effects of which**. Here’s what happens with “natural immunity”: https://t.co/XNZEi7JCVU
RT @flowermusickids: @KC_Allergy_Doc @DrTomFrieden You should have your license put under review for spreading false, disproven info. There…
@swepes @KC_Allergy_Doc @DrTomFrieden Not long: https://t.co/Qo8NNHhJpV It’s very important to get vaccinated ASAP if not already + wear robust, perfectly sealed N95 or better respirators when in public.
@KC_Allergy_Doc @DrTomFrieden You should have your license put under review for spreading false, disproven info. There is no such thing as herd immunity to SARS2 infection https://t.co/Qo8NNHhJpV Antibodies wane & SARS2 mutates, doc. Same is true w th
@tdiazdragon112 @justthefacts85 @JLWrangler79 @BizzleScott2 There is ***no*** such thing as natural immunity to SARS2. The only thing a previous infection & lack of respirator/vaccine use guarantees is a future SARS2 infection: https://t.co/Qo8NNHhJpV
@RealYeyoZa @razibkhan @johndurant Ok, so a twitter thread from someone with problematic views on covid + hearsay from local doctors is more valid in your eyes than multiple studies on seroprevalence in Amazonas? Not sure if there’s any point continuing th
@julestkiller @Fute_Mundo_ @palestra_danilo @Mikhail68986209 @Estadao @EstadaoPolitica Os 70% de Manaus foi equivocado. entenda na thread: https://t.co/1qne7DcH2K
- Due to viral mutation, lack of seroconversion following natural infection, and waning following vaccination with the current IM vaccines, we cannot achieve “herd immunity”. Dr Ryan knows this. On what scientific grounds is there herd immunity to SARS2?
RT @bealelab: Here's the alternative to stringent social distancing followed by vaccination. Remember all those claims about low herd immun…
RT @flowermusickids: @j4lambert @LynnInChicago2 Here’s the study from Manaus: https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf
@j4lambert @LynnInChicago2 Here’s the study from Manaus: https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf
RT @morilyn1123: ただしブラジル・マナウスの例もありますので、流行から1年近く経過して抗体価が下がり、そこへ強力な変異株が出てくるようなら集団免疫状態が崩れる可能性も高いでしょうか。要注視ですね。
RT @morilyn1123: ただしブラジル・マナウスの例もありますので、流行から1年近く経過して抗体価が下がり、そこへ強力な変異株が出てくるようなら集団免疫状態が崩れる可能性も高いでしょうか。要注視ですね。
RT @morilyn1123: ただしブラジル・マナウスの例もありますので、流行から1年近く経過して抗体価が下がり、そこへ強力な変異株が出てくるようなら集団免疫状態が崩れる可能性も高いでしょうか。要注視ですね。 https://t.co/Q0ekWiR1jp
RT @morilyn1123: ただしブラジル・マナウスの例もありますので、流行から1年近く経過して抗体価が下がり、そこへ強力な変異株が出てくるようなら集団免疫状態が崩れる可能性も高いでしょうか。要注視ですね。 https://t.co/Q0ekWiR1jp
RT @morilyn1123: ただしブラジル・マナウスの例もありますので、流行から1年近く経過して抗体価が下がり、そこへ強力な変異株が出てくるようなら集団免疫状態が崩れる可能性も高いでしょうか。要注視ですね。
ただしブラジル・マナウスの例もありますので、流行から1年近く経過して抗体価が下がり、そこへ強力な変異株が出てくるようなら集団免疫状態が崩れる可能性も高いでしょうか。要注視ですね。
@MikkCH @postcovid_CH @pietrovernazza die seroprävalenzstudie in manaus hat keine reinfektionen nachgewiesen, sondern eine rechnerische korrektur der infektionsquote vorgenommen und daraus gefolgert, dass es reinfektionen gegeben haben muss. https://t.co/0
@mobygrapefan - I hear ya! I really do. I wish that the antibodies from natural infection offered life long protection. Unfortunately, they do not. https://t.co/dv7fmXGXMp
@RepKatiePorter - Here’s the study that showed “herd immunity” isn’t a thing via natural infection: https://t.co/7LB2PkqQk6 If you need more info, ask the collective mind here on Twitter. We will provide.
@MaxBlumenthal Previous infection to SARS2 doesn’t confer protection against reinfection down the road or protection from the severe effects therein. https://t.co/sUX6f3yEyy https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf Neither vaccine nor infection confers herd immunity eith
RT @flowermusickids: @njcarlos @BNODesk - There is no “herd immunity” to SARS2 either via natural infection or vaccination. https://t.co/WS…
@GeorgeGammon Bullshit clickbait article. Was this true the Gamma VOC never would have emerged and collapse Manaus after the huge 3/4 attack rate: https://t.co/VGlTNfEzAG
@njcarlos @BNODesk - There is no “herd immunity” to SARS2 either via natural infection or vaccination. https://t.co/WSj3Akzu1N https://t.co/4JaBHZ2Rr0
@ydeigin Come on Yuri, the Gamma VOC emerged and collapsed Manaus even after a 3/4 attack rate. Thus, such Israeli study seems "Not Even Wrong". https://t.co/VGlTNfEzAG
@SherianeMansoor @itosettiMD_MBA I agree with you on mitigations, which is just infection control. I agree with you that this must be the fundamental way we defeat SARS2. To that end, I support #ZeroCovid (which is just infection control). There is no herd
@nabopi @Ireland2020 @elisha1022 @DrJessTaylor The seroprevalence study they cited sampled blood donors through the months following the first wave. The seropositivity estimate was consistent with the excess death rates compared to known age-specific IFRs
- Here’s a study that confirmed this a long time ago: there is NO “herd immunity” or individual protection to SARS2 from a natural infection. Avoid getting this virus. It will only cause you harm. https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf
@JuliaDavisNews @JanTate18324711 - Here’s a study that confirmed this a long time ago: there is NO “herd immunity” or individual protection to SARS2 from a natural infection. Avoid getting this virus. It will only cause you harm. https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf
RT @carpe_diem0820: 献血データによると、アマゾナス州の州都マナウスでは、流行のピークから1ヶ月後の6月でのCOVID-19のIgG抗体陽性率が44%、補正による推定既感染率は10月には76%に Three-quarters attack rate of S…
@richardursomd @CleopatraJo007 - Wrong! Manaus would like to have a word with you. https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf 👉Previous infection to SARS2 conveys no protection against future reinfection nor severe course. If you’re a HCW giving false info to your patients,
@skry @Deja_Great @IncisiveThought @denise_dewald @zephycat229 - Not trying to be contrarian, bc I wish heed immunity would work. 👉No herd immunity to natural infection: https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf 👉Vaccination doesn’t eliminate transmission in breakthrough
@x2IndSpeculator @ChristosArgyrop - Previous infection to Cov2 does not convey protection against either future reinfection or the severe effects of reinfection at a later date. Cov2 is not compatible with human physiology. Avoid. https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf
RT @flowermusickids: @SherianeMansoor @itosettiMD_MBA - Natural infection does ***not*** protect against future reinfection nor a severe co…
- You need to either issue a retraction or be prepared to be liable for your false claims. ⚠️ Implying that herd immunity is possible when it is NOT (see citations), creates a false sense of security for your readers. 👀 https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf
@DrSamGirgis - Previous infection to Cov2 neither guarantees robust protection from infection during a subsequent epidemic wave or severe course during subsequent infection. 👉 https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf
RT @flowermusickids: @CT_Bergstrom @joshtpm - Natural infection with Cov2 does not result in herd immunity. Previous infection neither prot…
donc : ¾ de Manaus touché par le virus https://t.co/hJwNsHVGAh
RT @flowermusickids: @SherianeMansoor @itosettiMD_MBA - Natural infection does ***not*** protect against future reinfection nor a severe co…
RT @flowermusickids: @SherianeMansoor @itosettiMD_MBA - Natural infection does ***not*** protect against future reinfection nor a severe co…
@CT_Bergstrom @joshtpm - Natural infection with Cov2 does not result in herd immunity. Previous infection neither protects against future infection nor a severe course with subsequent infection. Citation: https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf VE will go down due to Na
@SherianeMansoor @itosettiMD_MBA - Natural infection does ***not*** protect against future reinfection nor a severe course of illness with a future infection. Citation: https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf
@RedDeadFool @danaparish - And because previous natural infection will **not** protect you from future infection nor guarantee protection from a severe course of illness in the future, the effect of serial Cov2 infection could additionally exert cumulativ
@mickcorea1 @NiclasArnberger @Anetteekenberg1 @Gusten999 @GunillaRoos3 just tack vare det som sas i förra punkten. Vi vet inte hur länge immuniteten varar, och det skyddar inte mot alla potentiella varianter och mutationer. Det finns exempel där små gruppe
@JennieWTHR - Just so we’re super clear about this, there is no “herd immunity” via natural infection with SARS2. A previous infection does not convey protection against a future infection or severe 2nd course. NO benefit to exposing little souls to Cov2.
@j4lambert @CDCgov @CDCDirector - Does not matter. Cov2 could care less. Previous infection to Cov2 does **not** protect against either future infection or guarantee safety from severe illness in subsequent infections. There’s no such thing as “herd immuni
@LauraMiers (Thread) The problem here is that we have propagated the myth that herd immunity is even possible with a coronavirus. 1. Selective pressure caused the far more transmissible P.1 variant to emerge even among 60% vaxxed pop in Manaus (https://t.c
@RepThomasMassie This one is from Science. Together with Nature and Lancet those are three of the most renowed scientific journals in the world. https://t.co/036Z8PJtH2
@Mikeyanlam @DrEricDing @TomBossert @ABC Happy to discuss. Good q. I wish, I really do! It’s just more sh*tty news instead I’m afraid. ⚠️ There is NO herd immunity from natural infection. ⚠️A previous Cov2 infection will NOT protect you from a future Co
@cuido4 @Graelwyn @dgurdasani1 There is no evidence that people can bank on a previous infection with Cov2 to protect them from severe Cov2 infection down the road. Quite the opposite: https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf With that said, I wish this wasn’t so. Not good
@Frankma89495841 @LogieLorraine @GrowLikeGrandad @RWMaloneMD Explain a 76% attack rate with cross reactive Tcell immunity without burn out. The real world evidence is right there. https://t.co/vyPfvDta7R
@dockaurG You are making the assertion, the burden of proof is on you. But let’s try the 76% attack rate in Manaus without burnout. If there is robust pre-existing immunity from cross reactive T cell immunity how does that happen? Natural infection’s IFR
@Frankma89495841 @LogieLorraine @GrowLikeGrandad @RWMaloneMD The burden of proof is on those making the claim, not the other way round. It’s a basic tenant of scientific research. But here’s an easy one. Attack rate in Manaus was 76% without burnout. If t
@SocJoErinJo @peterdaou Here’s the study that establishes that Cov2’s continued presence will be severe in nature. Implications: 👉No “herd immunity” via natural infection 👉No protection against severe illness, death, or long Covid syndromes from previous
@HansKoppies @HansvanEeken59 @FrankvanWijck In de gaten houden, maar er worden o.b.v. beperkte data te snel conclusies getrokken. Net zoals in januari toen men met immuniteit in Manaus van 73% aankwamen, met een opleving en aangaf dat groepsimmuniteit niet
@johnjljacobs @roelgrif @BertMulderCWZ @Saskia_Furdytje @bassjobsen @ErikCumps @vanranstmarc @Chr1stenJohn Way way too many assumptions ... https://t.co/Hy8XKiclqO
@bassjobsen @Saskia_Furdytje @Marc_Veld @roelgrif @ErikCumps @johnjljacobs @vanranstmarc @JohnLJacobs https://t.co/FELIprowG9 Dat lijkt niet te kloppen. Steekproef was niet representatief voor de bevolking. Daardoor overschatting immuniteit in de samenlev
@psiquesofia @SUgayos @quinturicchio @AurelioToral @VaryIngweion @LorenzoenMilan @aulliditos @Oscar_Teix En otro de los estudios que cita el blog sobre la estimación de brasil: https://t.co/E2WVogNWnK el blog solo pone el dato del 0.17-0.28% pero omiten m
@wkdragon88 @Laurie_Garrett “Herd immunity” via natural infection is not biologically possible with Cov2 virus (I really wish it were though). https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf There will be no “exit wave”.
RT @flowermusickids: @Mofiyah22 @DBelardoMD @EM_RESUS https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf Previous infection will **not** protect you from future infe…
RT @flowermusickids: @Mofiyah22 @DBelardoMD @EM_RESUS https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf Previous infection will **not** protect you from future infe…
@Mofiyah22 @DBelardoMD @EM_RESUS https://t.co/WSj3AkhTaf Previous infection will **not** protect you from future infection. I wish it did! Wear “transmission based” PPE. Tight fitting N95-100 or elastomeric mask with exhalation valve covered. Get fully va
@BeanlyWife @AW50968253 @DrNeilStone @gbdeclaration That is misinformation & was debunked months ago. The claim of high seroprevalence relied on a skewed sample and bogus analysis. Robust estimates revealed that seroprevalence after wave 1 was just 15%
@PsyberAttack On Manaus:
RT @johnjljacobs: Deze rekensom is alleen correct als alle immuniteit blijvend beschermt tegen infectie. Dat is onwaarschijnlijk bij coron…
RT @johnjljacobs: Deze rekensom is alleen correct als alle immuniteit blijvend beschermt tegen infectie. Dat is onwaarschijnlijk bij coron…
RT @johnjljacobs: Deze rekensom is alleen correct als alle immuniteit blijvend beschermt tegen infectie. Dat is onwaarschijnlijk bij coron…
Deze rekensom is alleen correct als alle immuniteit blijvend beschermt tegen infectie. Dat is onwaarschijnlijk bij coronavirussen en verklaart het falen in Manaus. Kikkert https://t.co/SDH4djiaDN Manaus https://t.co/VQDb9elpFC Steriliserende immuniteit h
@apandersen Ja, ud fra nuværende data vil det give mening at vente. Måske giver det mening for nogle enkelte med dårligt immun respons. Studiet fra Manaus kom også frem til næsten ens halveringstid
@TheodoreLytras 👌 Case study Manaus Brazil: > 60% of the population infected by 6/2020, some expected they would reach herd immunity but early 2021 there was resurgence of cases due to P1 suggesting that previous infections did not confer broad protecti